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Old 01-03-10   #1
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One of the basic assumptions I hear is that magic and magical energies are natural facets of the mundane world. We do not create nor destroy those energies; we simply utilize them to cause an action or result we desire. Through the imposing of will and focus we direct and many times stipulate the how, where and when of a thing.

Yet if these energies are part of the natural order then does it not imply that rogue waveforms would or should also be part of the natural order of magical energies?

For years sailors have spoken of rogue waves that suddenly appear with little to no forewarnings of it’s approach. These destructive rogue waves that simply rise up from a calm ocean to tower over and frequently were crashing down upon an unsuspecting ship. Not to long ago there was a story of a cruise ship struck by such a way that was at least 50 – 60 feet in height. During the storm that resulted in the loss of the Ship Andrea Gale ship’s personal aboard a super tanker recorded such a wave on camera. That wave completely submerging the weather decks of the ship and crashing upon the superstructure.

These rogues are not restricted to water surfaces either. Aircraft frequently report the sudden and unavoidable encounter with holes or windsheers. I recall back in 1979 I was at Travis Air Force Base awaiting transportation to Scotland when a 747 coming in for a landing was struck by such a rogue wind sheer. The 747 did a barrel roll and righted itself during the landing procedure. I remember the stewardess on my plane telling us if we did such an event they would scrape us up off the runway as our smaller plane would have disintegrated in the air.

Yet these rogue’s also take the form of holes as well. Those places in space where a plane will suddenly loose all lift and slide into or simply free fall. Many times associated with storm activity but not always. One moment all clear, the next moment the plane and pilot fight to hold off disaster as the plane plummets towards the earth below.

All these natural events that are classified as rogue events because of their unpredictability and many times the singularness of the event. Many may go a lifetime and never experience such an event. Many times science was refusing to accept the possibility of such an abnormal event occurring. The rogue waves one such event that was for years denounced as impossible by the scientific community. An event that now is accepted with a supporting premise that as many as 20 – 30 such rogue waves are to be found every day through out the world’s oceans and seas.

So if such rogue’s exist in the mundane do such rogue events exist in the magical realm? Are there rogue waveforms that move across the surface and strike with disastrous results but go undetected? Do these rogue forms occasionally strike with terrible results but remain unknown to the general world?

If the physical realities are to be used as a basis then the answer has to be a resounding yes. A sailor may go an entire lifetime and never see a rogue wave so it seems logical that a magical practitioner should equally have a chance to go a lifetime and never witness or experience a magical rogue. Yet today we know of ship’s that have encountered these rogue’s and barley survive so can assume many in years past did not survive such an encounter. Perhaps there are strange events where such encounter’s with magical rogue’s caused destruction but left no clues as to the reason why.

Perhaps even now a rogue looms large upon the horizon and closes in upon the unsuspecting ship, plane or practitioner!
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Energies vary quite a lot from place to place. Each area has its own energy signature. If you go from, say, Toronto to Ottawa, the land emits a very different feeling energy--an that is from one country, one province even. Even in my city, the quality and quantities of energy varies a lot. In some places the energy has an unhealthy feel while others it is fresh and full of vigour. In places where people have held rituals, the energy will often feel either drained or noxious, or some other quality depending on the ritual. Landforms such as mountains, escarpments, valleys etc affect the land's energy as does the amount of plant and tree coverage.
Energy on and in the land varies almost as much as the waves of the ocean so your wave analogy seems appropriate. I would say that on land, the energy changes are somewhat more static than ocean waves, but they do occur IMHO.
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They're probably one of those things that, if we knew why, the cause would seem quite simple, but since we haven't found any particular reason why yet, some people denounce it as ridiculous. In nature there are often things that seem strange; they don't fit in the predicted pattern but occur never the less. I think it's quite logical to assume this can be the same with magic.
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I have to agree with you Gala. I don't believe in anything being supernatural. Everything is natural and follows natural laws. We may not know all of these natural laws (which is why they get called supernatural), but they exist and likely are simple.
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It may be that these rogue waves are an effect produced by the congruence of multiple waves that acts to amplify or nullify each other. Individually, they are unnoticed. Together, the effect is dramatic.
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I don't have the time to read this entire thread, but my uncle is a meteorologist who specializes in weather-related incidents at sea. He appears often as a "specialist" for either side of court cases. Anywho, he deals with the rogue wave thing pretty often. Rogue waves actually have a pattern, as do larger waves at a beach, etc. Seems they're not so rogue as we all thought at one point in time.
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I don't have the time to read this entire thread, but my uncle is a meteorologist who specializes in weather-related incidents at sea. He appears often as a "specialist" for either side of court cases. Anywho, he deals with the rogue wave thing pretty often. Rogue waves actually have a pattern, as do larger waves at a beach, etc. Seems they're not so rogue as we all thought at one point in time.
I know the idea of the rogue is becoming more well known and researched to include a mathamatical model that shows they do hold a pattern in development. Yet it seems its still up for debate just what is causing the conditions that are needed even though it seems to be cyclic though not in a hard patteren to each area.

Still they are still so infrequent that I suppose they will always be called rogue waves by sailors.
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Though i'd re-visit this topic. While the topic sort of sheared off into rogue water waves I find myself again returning to the idea of rogue (or what appears to be rouge) magical waves.

One of those things that might explain the sudden sensation we might feel when we find we are feeling like something is crashing down on us. If not crashing down then that force that seems to rise up before us and makes us struggle to get over it or seek a means to go around it. Not in the sense of traditional impasses or events but those that seem to just appear and then are gone often leaving us feeling wrecked, beaten up or so depleted of energy as if we had to fight hard against some force.
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