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Old 04-22-10   #11
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This about the number of NA women missing in Canada
http://www.turtleisland.org/discussi...d1a866fca1ffd5
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Old 04-22-10   #12
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we need to look closer at what Saskatchewan is doing right
Lower population, community oriented and most of all... not BC.

I can well believe 160 cases come from BC and Id go so far as to say most of the people missing are probably living in Vancouver.

Its a similar situation to homeless people in London in that there are so many noone can keep track. While I was there the count was 10,000 homeless people crammed into Vancouver. And Van Island... Ive never seen more people on the streets begging or selling, all the while surrounded by a huge museum to haida history and big art peices. Everyone drives everywhere in vancouver but Ive always walked cos of Irelands dense city streets and if you leave the car at home and walk across the city I noticed there there are whole streets packed with homeless or boarderline 'Aboriginal' people.

I dont even know where to apply the value judgement there.
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I was thinking kind of the same thing..
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Old 04-28-10   #14
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About time.. Took them long enough...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/04/28...ndian-country/
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A good NA organization ..
http://www.gayainternational.org/projects.html
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- Associated Press
- May 22, 2010
Blackfeet woman sees end to her 14-year fight with the government over misused Indian money

BROWNING, Mont.
Elouise Cobell sat behind her cluttered desk here in the windblown heart of the Blackfeet Indian Reservation and peered at a visitor through dark glasses that couldn't quite hide the deep bruise...


BROWNING, Mont. (AP) — Elouise Cobell sat behind her cluttered desk here in the windblown heart of the Blackfeet Indian Reservation and peered at a visitor through dark glasses that couldn't quite hide the deep bruise that ran down her cheek to her jaw.
Her appearance made her a bit self-conscious, offering an unexpected glimpse of a woman who had built a reputation for fearlessness after 14 years standing toe-to-toe with the federal government in an attempt to recover billions of dollars of squandered Indian trust money.
Cobell, 64, fainted in Washington, D.C., during a trip in April to meet with congressional leaders. She hit the sidewalk hard and was rushed to the hospital to treat a fractured orbital bone. She hadn't slept the night before her collapse and spent that whole day rushing from meeting to meeting, she explained.
But with the end in sight to her long fight — a $3.4 billion settlement that could be approved by Congress this month — the bruises have not slowed her down. Neither has the buildup to the vote, which has meant countless meetings, phone calls and dusty road trips to remote parts of Indian country.
"I want us to win for once, you know? Indians are always losing," Cobell said. "This is the people's own money. This is not the government's money, this is their own money that we're fighting for."
Cobell's class-action lawsuit represents at least 300,000 and maybe as many as 500,000 Indians who own property that the government holds in trust for them. The Department of Interior leases that land to others to farm or develop resources, and by agreement is supposed to pay the Indians the money generated by the land into Individual Indian Money trust accounts, or IIMs.
Cobell grew up hearing stories of the Interior Department's Bureau of Indian Affairs shortchanging these IIM account holders. She saw how non-Indians who leased the land were making money off the oil or timber or crops it produced while its Indian owners remained poor.
She became an accountant, and then the Blackfeet tribe's treasurer. Tribal elders asked Cobell to write letters to the government asking why they weren't getting their trust money. Those who got the occasional green government check never received an explanation or a statement of what was in their IIM accounts. Visits to the Bureau of Indian Affairs offices could be bewildering.
"The government would tell people when they came in, 'You can't really do that' — there were just all kinds of can'ts and can'ts and can'ts," she said.
In fact, there was no real accounting of how much money was in the trust pool of IIM accounts, she discovered. And as she dug deeper, she realized there was nobody standing up for the individuals landowners, not even the tribes.
"By the time I got more and more into this, I knew the abuse was horrible. So how can you walk away from it? How could you feel like a person and walk away from the corruption?"
Cobell filed her lawsuit in 1996. She thought it would take three years, tops, to convince the government to settle.
"But I was wrong. They dug in really hard on this one, the hardest I've ever seen them dig into anything. So I knew there was a lot of money (involved)," Cobell said.
The government does not admit wrongdoing in the settlement, but has called it "both honorable and responsible."
Cobell's lead attorney in the case is Dennis Gingold, a top banking attorney she met in a 1992 meeting called by the first Bush administration in an attempt to sort out the Indian trust money dispute. He thought then that the government was lucky it hadn't been sued.
Gingold joined Cobell in bringing suit, and promised he would stick with her, even if there was no money to pay him.
"Nobody in his right mind would want to do this," he told The Associated Press in a recent telephone interview. "I thought it was important for my kids to understand that there are things worth fighting for."
Some have questioned how much Gingold and his team of lawyers would receive in this settlement. Republican Sen. John Barrasso of Wyoming has proposed capping lawyer's fees at $50 million. Republican Rep. Doc Hastings of Washington sent a letter to Gingold saying it was reasonable to limit those fees so the Indians would receive more.
Gingold and Cobell both say Congress doesn't have the authority to change the agreement, and that the proposed fee of just under $100 million would represent just 3 percent of the total settlement.
"He has really uncovered the entire behavior of the United States government when it comes to managing Indian Trust assets," Cobell said of Gingold.
Gingold can tick off a whopping list of numbers that highlights the 14-year fight: more than 3,600 court filings; 220 days of trial; 80 published court decisions; 10 interlocutory appeals.
The district court ruled in 1999 that the government had breached its trust duties, a ruling that held up on appeal in 2001. The fight went on over whether the government had to provide an accounting to the IIM holders — the district court ruled in 2008 that it did, which the appeals court reaffirmed last year.
The plaintiffs had originally asked for $47 billion, but under a proposed settlement signed in December, $1.4 billion would go to individual Indian account holders. Some $2 billion would be used by the government to buy up fractionated Indian lands from individual owners willing to sell, and then turn those lands over to tribes. Another $60 million would be used for a scholarship fund for young Indians.
The Interior Department largely has been silent on the case. But Deputy Secretary of the Interior David Hayes acknowledged in an April 8 status conference before Robertson that the government has not lived up to its duties.
"We believe it is a historic settlement, an opportunity to turn the page on a period of history where the trustee has not performed as the trustee needs to," Hayes told the judge.
Reaching the settlement has been a major milestone in the case, but selling it has been complicated. Cobell has had to travel across Indian country the past couple of months in an attempt to clear up rumors and misconceptions.
Some wanted to know why was the settlement for so much less than what they thought had been lost. Others wanted to know whether it was true that she would be getting rich.
Cobell says the amount is the best they could hope for and that she expects to be awarded just like any other plaintiff. But she also plans to recover the $300,000 she spent to help fund the lawsuit, using money she was awarded in 1997 through a MacArthur Foundation genius grant.
Additionally, her nonprofit, the Blackfeet Reservation Development Fund, must repay at least $11 million in grants and loans from various foundations money that funded the lawsuit. The settlement allows her up to $15 million to repay those debts, a provision that sparked the rumors that she was getting a big payout.
The deadline for Congress to authorize the settlement and allocate the funds has been extended twice by the court. Cobell and Gingold are hopeful the settlement will be approved this time, but they say if the May 28 deadline passes without a vote, the deal could be terminated and years of additional litigation could ensue.
If that happens, Cobell said, her worst fears would be affirmed. Despite her 14-year fight, attitudes will not have changed.
Cobell said that she feels that she and the other Native Americans are still invisible to the rest of America.
"I get the feeling a lot that nobody really cares about Native Americans, that it's OK for them to live in poverty," she said. "They don't have a lot of money and they don't have a lot of votes, so who cares?"
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He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.' -Nietzsche

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Old 05-23-10   #17
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"I get the feeling a lot that nobody really cares about Native Americans, that it's OK for them to live in poverty," she said. "They don't have a lot of money and they don't have a lot of votes, so who cares?"
The problem isn't that nobody cares about Native Americans, specifically.

The problem is that the majority don't care about anything, that doesn't happen on TV. Most people's priorities are an 8, 12, or 16 etc hour a day job, and then when they get home, swallowing junk food (because they don't have the time or energy to cook) and sitting in front of the television, often simply because they're literally too tired to do anything else.

The only reason why I've had the time or the inclination to learn about the nature of this problem, is because of the fact that I myself am unemployed. I did the thing at school for 11 years, where there was absolutely no focus, every single day, beyond psychological survival. My grades were terrible, but the point that nobody else who was watching at the time understood was, that I wasn't focused on schoolwork. I was focused on getting through each 24 hour block, without ending up schizophrenic.

I therefore made the decision, that once I left, I was not going to go into a scenario where, for the entirety of my adult life, not only was it purely about psychological survival for the next 24 hours, but it was simply made even more difficult and stressful, by logistics being added into the mix.

That is the nature of this problem. Virtually nobody thinks long term, because given the nature of the way they live, they literally cannot afford to. It is their job, their kids, their spouse, the TV, and maybe WalMart...and that's it. If we're going to change anything else, we need to change that first.
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This was just posted on another Yahoo Group I'm on, and I thought this was the best place for it (although, the Political forum might be good too).

It actually made me feel anger, and sadness too.

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It has been called the world's second "oil war", but the only similarity between Iraq and events in the jungles of northern Peru over the last few weeks has been the mismatch of force. On one side have been the police armed with automatic weapons, teargas, helicopter gunships and armoured cars. On the other are several thousand Awajun and Wambis Indians, many of them in war paint and armed with bows and arrows and spears.
In some of the worst violence seen in Peru in 20 years, the Indians this week warned Latin America what could happen if companies are given free access to the Amazonian forests to exploit an estimated 6bn barrels of oil and take as much timber they like. After months of peaceful protests, the police were ordered to use force to remove a road bock near Bagua Grande.
In the fights that followed, at least 50 Indians and nine police officers were killed, with hundreds more wounded or arrested. The indigenous rights group Survival International described it as "Peru's Tiananmen Square".
"For thousands of years, we've run the Amazon forests," said Servando Puerta, one of the protest leaders. "This is genocide. They're killing us for defending our lives, our sovereignty, human dignity."

I really hate seeing that happen, that is one of the things I want to help fight against, and I'm going to look into ways of doing that.
Destroying environments doesn't seem to matter, to those doing it, as long as it makes money, even if it means destroying (permentantly) natural resources, peoples, cultures, Holy sites, etc.
Anyway, what are your thoughts?.
BTW, this was also posted too:
http://www.iwgia.org/
I'm definitely going to be looking through that site with interest tomorrow.

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I just actually got my latest Paypal receipt from Survival International. I send them $20 a month, currently. It's not a lot, but on a pension, it's the most I can afford, and if/when I move out, I'm probably not going to be able to afford that.

Still, if anyone can afford to sling them a few dollars every now and then, I'd seriously urge you to do so. There are a lot of indigenous groups out there who are being pushed to the very edge, these days. Survival does good work; and it's important work, too.

The fact that indigenous groups are having so much difficulty surviving at the moment, should really be a warning sign to us all, IMHO. It means that we're probably not that far away from a point where none of the rest of us will be able to, either.
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Gonna move this to the Indigenous People thread...
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