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Yes, perhaps spirit guides were not an important part in the wicca tradition until later on, but I would not ignore this concept just because they were not mentioned in books before 80's 90's. |
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If you look to ancient Greece you find the idea of the agathodaemon (good Daemons of Vineyards & Grainfields), Eudaemon (Good Daemons in general) and Kakodaemon (evil or bad Daemon). But they were cultural in general not aimed at specific individuals. Within the idea of ancestral hero's you had the Hero's as well as ones own ancestors but they watched over the entire family not the individual. Generally that ancestral idea extended to the Orient as well. The ancestors watched over the entire family not specifically the individual though the actions of an individual could shame the entire line. Angelic beings existed as you said across many systems but again they didn't tend to be protectors of individuals. That though is not to say people couldn't ask them for protection via charms, spells, jewelry, etc. Yet it also didn't mean the angelic or demonic host for that matter actually granted such protections. The church equally sold salvation's for a price and one could wear that about their neck as well. I won't deny that some area's had more folkish belief systems than others. Fairy godmother's were more than just stories in some areas, just as was the notion of having blood lineage to the Fae. But that was also the exception vice the norm. Same as the odds of meeting the death coach on the roads during a storm on the Irish Countryside. That being with or without having Irish Ancestry. That or traveling the countryside in Scotland and encountering a Red Cap, whether you have Scottish Blood and be in Bonnie Scotland or elsewhere. Sure, that Brownie might in fact be protecting your home and hearth if that is your cultural norm. But that's cultural norm and has nothing to do with practicing any craft or belief in the craft for that came from culture not craft. That and probably came from British Cultural influence if I recall my Brownie lore correctly though all lore has something similar but still has nothing to do with the craft or magic. However, that is the problem. Those same authors took various cultural items and included them as fillers and suddenly they became requirements for spiritual and magical pathways. Now people continue to perpetuate those idea's that you have to have these cultural or folkish items within their pathways for it to be this or that. Yet in truth have no idea where or why they are being included. For that matter what purpose they actually served in the culture, folklore or heritage that it is being borrowed from. But they have to have them and spout them off like badges of honor. What's funny though is when they claim divinities and heritages that never used them. Cultures that never identified with them in the way they try to represent them. Especially for time frames they are claiming with the divinities they are claiming. To me to be honest it's about as funny as a witch claiming her cat as her familiar. I think it was Mama Silver who said your pet kitty can be your familiar and that one stuck. Even though traditionally a familiar is an other worldly entity. But then along came Harry Potter.
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^ Fair enough. I must say, you must be the first person I've heard so far to actually claim that not everyone has a spiritguide. I haven't even considered this to be an option.
Perhaps I should start a thread and we can continue the discussion. |
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I would enjoy that discussion.
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Egyptian Wicca is actually something I was unaware of. Aware of Egyptians as very spiritual and mystic people with their own unique culture, traditions and beliefs, but Egypt in connection to Wicca was new to me. Something else that I've learned. Hearing or reading about Wicca my first thought used to be the Celtic imprint, for example Irish. I bought a book in Ireland once named "Irish Folk and Fairy Tales" which was pretty enjoyable to read. Back then this deepened the assumption Wicca is mainly European linked.
Spiritguides seem a pretty popular topic which I am very interested in hearing stories of from individuals with experiences and such belief. |
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