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Old 02-11-11   #1
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Symbol & meditation.....the route to the actual star is possibily reflected?


The Elven Star and the Human Star

By Lanthinel

The Sign of Man is the pentagram or five-pointed star. Its associations are elemental (fire, earth, wind, water) leading to the spiritual (spirit). The pentagram expresses the ideal and sought for emotional, physical, and spiritual balance of humanity:
The passion and energy of fire.
The voice, soul, and thoughts of wind.
The dynamic, deep nature of water.
The stability and life of earth, as wrought from those elements before.
The spirit in Harmony with its self and its world.
The elven star, however, the septagram, is similar yet highly different. While many of its points hold elemental symbolism, it is more complex in the relationship between the points.
Point 1: The Sun. There is apparent fire elemental symbolism here, but also a more specific symbolism relavent to the septagram. The sun is the primary force of life and creation on Earth or most any other world. Without it, elven and humanoid life as we know it would not exist. Its influence affects us in uncountable ways, ranging from climate to psychology to its interaction with other bodies in our system. At the same time, there are the magical symbols associated with the sun: life, energy, creation, fertility, power--but at the same time remember that the sun has its negative aspects as well: drought, extreme heat, radiation, cancer, and so forth.
Point 2: The Wood. Most elves feel a deep connection to forests and woods in general. Trees are considered kin, cousins and brothers. Elves can see a deep secret hidden in the branches of trees, and understand the power and nature of trees and woods. There is also earth elemental symbolism here.
Point 3: The Sea. Many elves also have a connection to the sea, and water elemental powers are very strong naturally. Some may be reluctant to know the sea or feel it, perhaps forgetting the ocean as one of the great forces of many worlds.
Point 4: The Magic. Magic is integral to the lives of all elves, whether it be the simple but profound magic of a snowflake or the more involved (for the elf perhaps) magic of rhymes, runes, visions, and such. It is not onlya matter of understanding magic, but of living magic.
Point 5: The Moon. Just as the sun is responsible for our existence, so too does the moon have almost as important a role. Consider how different Earth would be without the moon: to light the dark night skies; to affect the weather and tides with its gravity (it is in many ways a contributor to the dynanism of our weather patterns); and even the magical and physiological effects upon us and others. Without its effects, the cycles of life in our oceans might not have occurred--or at least, not have occured as we have known them to. The way life on Earth exists now is due directly to the moon.
Point 6: The Wind. Many elves also have a strong connection to the wind and air elementals in general. At the same time, the wind is responsible for helping germinate the world's plants and forests--it is the essence of weather, and so much more.
Point 7: Connection. Ultimately, elves must remember the idea of Connection--of our connection to ourselves, others, the world, the land, reality, magic, and the universe. We are creatures of connection, and our power is tied to our connections to all things. This point is the aspiration perhaps of the other points, just as the fifth point of spirit is the aspiration of the pentagram and humanity.
Those of you familiar with Rialian's notes on the elven star may notice this is different in many ways, as I tried to flush out and expand on the vague (and confusing as Rialian puts it) symbolism of the original I came across. However, I think it expresses the elven star rather well.
As an aside, I would be interested if those of you who know of other worlds, whether from previous lives or otherwise, could email me with names and notes on these various realms. I am hoping to compile a collection of such information for my own and others' use. If you can, feel free to share what you feel you can or have the time for. I appreciate any assistance.
Take care, and dream well, **Darkness and Light, Shadows and Dream, Storm and Force** Lanthinel --worlow4@fastlane.net--


http://www.rialian.com/elvslant.htm
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Very nice site TBE ..thank you
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I consider the Actual Elven star to be Algol,the winking daemon star.I suppose they all could be considered Elven though.


Algol is the name of the winking demon star, Medusa of the skies; fair but deadly to look on, even for one who is already dying.

Ah, the bright stars of the night.

Almost they obliterate the clear white pain. A thousand stars shining in the ether; but no dazzling newcomer. And so little time left, so little time...

Yet still two-faced Medusa laughs from behind the clouds, demanding homage. Homage, Medusa, or a sword, a blade sharper than death itself.

The wind stirs. Night clouds obscure the universe. A lower music now, a different kind of death.

No stars tonight, my love.

No Selene."
Elizabeth Redfern (The Music of the Spheres)
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I always enjoyed Rialian's site, it's been around a good while and there's some very interesting ideas and articles on there. Thanks for posting this, hadn't seen it before.
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It is very nicely laid out & I like the interpretation,although it does not go far enough.

Will sleep upon this elven key,it is a wonderful well mapped vibration....eh,here is another very cool concept of labels a wee bit different from mine,yet very clearly explained,touching VOID even. perhaps.......

Synesthesia Symbiosis





Being elven seems to be a state of abstraction...of having a relation to the flows of things, rather than having a relation to the thing itself. Take emotions...elves tend to be very abstract in these things...I know I am. We are not so much passionate about people, but about the interactions and dynamics...the abstract things that make things work. We are not passionate about a thing, but in how it is interacting with others.

Objects bother us...or, rather, that which makes something an "object" rather than a process. I have been noting this more as of late in my own mind, placing things in perspective. It has always bothered me when people are made into "objects"...when they are placed in the realm of "elder" or "role model"...it has always seemed to me to have a level of disrespect to it. Respecting their actions is one thing...making them BE their actions is another thing...then linking those things together to take that person away from the act of flow is in my mind very disturbing....
Elven currents strike me as not being particularly of an object, but the spaces BETWEEN objects. Not the emitter of forces...but the area of interplay between forces...so much so that one could think of that space between being it's own force...(yes, it is a bit odd).
Think of the space between two gravitational areas...which is not of one gravity or the other, but the area where they meet. That feeling of surface tension, that turbulent stillness.
That is the area where the senses mingle and cross their borders....and where the living forms interact and strengthen each other. This is the mind of the elven sort...a realm where everything is deepened by the influences of other flows, where the turbulence brings it's own balance. I tend to go with a paradigm of symbiosis and interaction...the images meet, there is a central being formed, which embodies the interaction, and information flows between the two through the jointly created filter...which of course has it's own sentience....and moves on. (chuckle). It gets pretty odd...but I see the essence of magick being in the interaction between the various symbioses we form with other's energies...
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Also from the site,Paths & possibilities.

I sit here. I wonder why. I want to understand.
I watch the sunset.
I watch the shadows of life
I watch the shadows of death
As they melt into each other
And become one
with the darkness
I begin to understand

reminds me of twilight realm of Mara,Norse/female as opposed to Hindu/male.
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Since Rialian's influence is Otherkin, that's the modality of the interpretation. I've come to believe that the world of Otherkin is just a different way of accessing the same processes as other wider practices and beliefs. It's just more unique and tailored to the person, as a greater range of personal symbolism can be employed upon that journey of self discovery.

The energy always feels more vibrant and colourful when talking to Otherkin about their spirituality and ideas, genuinely inventive and fresh which always makes me smile. Sadly the ones like the owner of that site are much rarer and quieter than most.

I love this line, I think it's a great choice of words, for something I've experienced (though I would not consider myself elven or fae, though I'm sure I've met some):

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Think of the space between two gravitational areas...which is not of one gravity or the other, but the area where they meet. That feeling of surface tension, that turbulent stillness.
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Rilian captures the energy of a raindrop hitting a pond,falling as sphere where 2 gravitational areas meet(air & water),then forming Torus Tube energy as water meets water,the energy passing downward through centrepoint energy,then back up to centrepoint for the upward splish ....same as a drip from a tap into a bath,where you see the ripples better.

Rilian's 7 points is the universe,ie your universe is all you can pick up with your senses.

Once it has been identified & there is faith in the universe we can better form the 8th & 9th points,for better structure to allow centrepoint energy to flow between the 0/10.
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States of matter are also important.

For Man :-

(1)solid

(2)liquid

(3)gas(water/H20 being the only thing to exist in all 3 states simulataneouslly at the same temperature,Carbon dioxide/CO2 being the only thing to pass directly from solid to gas,skipping liquid)

(4)Plasma



examples of plasma matter which are observable:
  • Star Energy
  • Fluorescent Electrified Mercury VaporGlowing Electrified Neon
    Lightning
  • Electric Arcs
(5)Bose-einstein condensate



for elven there are 2 more.

(6)Darkmatter

(7)Superconductor(superhot/supercold)



2 others are VOID(subatomic) & Anti-matter....








Connection. Ultimately, elves must remember the idea of Connection--of our connection to ourselves, others, the world, the land, reality, magic, and the universe. We are creatures of connection, and our power is tied to our connections to all things. ie the 7 is actually a 10/0..... ..................& yet it is ALL ONE!
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Ok,as simply as I can put it,the energy tree is :-

(1) solid

(2)liquid

3)gas

4)Plasma

5)Bose-Einstein condensate

6)Darkmatter(the packing stuff which holds everything *in place*,ahem..
electromagnetic field stuff)

7)Antimatter(shrunken,collapsed,crushed darkmatter)

9)VOID (subatomic)

10) Superconductor state,say supercold-1(0) & superhot +1(0)

These 10 points make a tree?or a standing columnar wave like twinstar,twinstar like standing columnar wave.

The anti-matter *universe* being the key.meh,was wanting to try to allign with the tree of life before unveiling this,maybe too soon.

Just a first draft,this resonates ok with me very nicely so will try to perfect this.
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